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Ok so the GW GT is dead, long live the Indi GT and other Indi events! Which means that the 1500pt list is looking a bit dead as well with pretty much every indi tourney been played at 1750pts. So i've been pondering (once again) Tyranid lists now that I have all my Biker army purchased and I want something to paint other than Termagants and Marines.
Alpha: Bone Swords, Toxin Sacs, Regenerate - 110
Alpha: Bone Swords, Toxin Sacs, Regenerate - 110
3 Zoanthropes - 180
3 Hive Guard - 150
Doom of Malan'Tai - 90
+ Mycetic Spore - 40
12 Termagants - 60
12 Termagants - 60
Tervigon: Catalyst, Toxin Sacs, Scything Talons - 190
Trygon Prime - 240
Trygon Prime - 240
This always seems to be the core of any Nid list I write. I know there is a lot of hype about some kind of Tyrant Council but am not sure 100% what people are going on about and tbh if it is what I think it is then IMO that is a too many points in a single unit for me.
Either way this 'core' leaves me with enough points for the following:
A. x2 units of 18 Gargoyles with Adrenal Glands and Toxin Sacs (maths hammer wise these are superior to Hormaguants for the same cost)
or
B. 18 Gargoyles with Adrenal Glands and Toxin Sacs + 3 Biovores (!!! Yes I know Biovores!!! scary eh?  Actually after reading their entry properly last night S4 AP4 Large Blast barrage seems to have some value and might actually work)(or was I just too tired at 2am last night?).
So as per usual opinions and input.
And what exactly is this Hive Council people are banging on about? I can't seem to find any examples.
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lol i would say ask Chris seems he did very well with them at the weekend.
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Option A Neil. You must have been VERY tired, drunk or something similarly numbing to even consider biovores!
My mate wrote this list:
tervigon with sacs, glands and catalyst,
2 units of 10 gaunts
9 hive guard
3 trygon primes with glands
Without my codex I'm not sure of the point values of everything, sorry.
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A man may fail many times but he isn't truly a failure until he blames his dice...
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Id say 2x 18 gargs as they will help tie up units long enough until the trygons ds or walk up to support. Also you could consider a pod for the zoans, drop it empty when you dont want them forward or pop that key tank turn one (plus with a prime in there no one will charge it!)
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Idea with the Zoes Kiran was to have both Alpha's attached then cast FnP on the unit. You end up with a nice little bunker that can absorb a lot of shooting and is pretty good both a range and in combat. Also the size of the means you are likely to get cover saves for the Guard and/or Tervigon lurking behind.
Rob: I dont' know, the the rise and rise of Daemons, Nids and Guard armies have 3 large blast templates to thin the horde might be quite handy. I'm not totally doolally you know 
Oh and your mates list is 1495pts (5 spare for Scything Talons on the Tervigon).
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Ha that's the exact list i WAS using. I just found trygons do well against some armies but drop dead against others without doing anything.
I can't believe you've forgotten what the tyrant council is, we've talked about it enough times! At the moment mine looks like this:
Tyrant - Twin devs, bonesword & lashwhip, pref enemy to 6", regen, paroxysm, leech essence
3 Tyrant Guard - Bonesword & rending
Warrior Prime - Bonesword & lashwhip, rending, Poison, regen.
Yes its a lot of points. 570pts to be exact but its just such a pain in the ass unit. Any shooting gets wound allocated away and regen the next turn and its as nails in combat as nids can get i think.
Is it better than two tyrgons that i used to have? Well i'm doing with that in my army than i was with two trygons for a few reasons:
1) It gets a cover save nearly all the time (either gaunts or its infantry majority).
2) You can do a great multicharge and split the unit if you need
3) Pref enemy is a great boost. Charge some gaunts in as well and each gaunt will do 1/3/8 wounds between shooting and combat.
4) It has lash whips so you can charge units in cover (which is a biggy)
5) You can slap FNP on it easier (found the trygons were usually out of range).
6) it has paroxyzm which i think is AMAZING.
I wouldn't advise zoes in a spore. I tried this with a warrior, was ok, but its three kill points and trust me, people will still charge it.
I like gargs though, they're in my botch list.
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The Fallen Angel wrote:I can't believe you've forgotten what the tyrant council is, we've talked about it enough times! At the moment mine looks like this:
Tyrant - Twin devs, bonesword & lashwhip, pref enemy to 6", regen, paroxysm, leech essence
3 Tyrant Guard - Bonesword & rending
Warrior Prime - Bonesword & lashwhip, rending, Poison, regen.
Not with me you haven't! Remember I am in the black hole of York were none of you dare tread
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skcuzzlebumm wrote:Rob: I dont' know, the the rise and rise of Daemons, Nids and Guard armies have 3 large blast templates to thin the horde might be quite handy. I'm not totally doolally you know
No I found that out on saturday! In disgust at his poor performance, I've actually put Fateweaver in the attic. He can think about whether or not he wants to fail that many saves again for a while and then maybe I'll let him out... Grumble grumble...
I actually think Biovores are ok, however I think you can spend the points much more wisely on a fast moving unit to tie things up to allow the trygons to close in.
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A man may fail many times but he isn't truly a failure until he blames his dice...
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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skcuzzlebumm wrote:The Fallen Angel wrote:I can't believe you've forgotten what the tyrant council is, we've talked about it enough times! At the moment mine looks like this:
Tyrant - Twin devs, bonesword & lashwhip, pref enemy to 6", regen, paroxysm, leech essence
3 Tyrant Guard - Bonesword & rending
Warrior Prime - Bonesword & lashwhip, rending, Poison, regen.
Not with me you haven't! Remember I am in the black hole of York were none of you dare tread
Well we certainly talked enough times about tyrant + guard in the old codex and you never liked it.
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So if you used a council the your talking, I assume, about a list like this:
Tyrant: Twin Devs, Old Adversary, Regenerate - 230
+ 3 Tyrant Guard: Boneswords - 225
Alpha Warrior: Lash Whip & Bonesword, Toxin Sacs, Regenerate - 115
3 Zoanthropes - 180
3 Hive Guard - 150
Doom of Malan'Tai - 90
+ Mycetic Spore - 40
10 Termagants - 50
10 Termagants - 50
Tervigon: Catalyst, Toxin Sacs, Scything Talons - 190
Tervigon: Catalyst, Toxin Sacs, Scything Talons - 190
15 Gargoyles: Toxin Sacs, Adrenal Glands - 120
15 Gargoyles: Toxin Sacs, Adrenal Glands - 120
Total = 1750
Added 06.02.2010 15:56:04:
The Fallen Angel wrote:Well we certainly talked enough times about tyrant + guard in the old codex and you never liked it.
No because in the old book the Guard never really made their points back and for the cost of them you could get another TMC into the army.
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Its not SW, only two HQs!
Oh and aren't the gargs 10pts each with both poision and fury?
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Warning: date(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected the timezone 'UTC' for now, but please set date.timezone to select your timezone. in /data04/aroberts/public_html/components/com_agora/include/functions.php on line 622
Warning: date(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected the timezone 'UTC' for now, but please set date.timezone to select your timezone. in /data04/aroberts/public_html/components/com_agora/include/functions.php on line 623
Warning: date(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected the timezone 'UTC' for now, but please set date.timezone to select your timezone. in /data04/aroberts/public_html/components/com_agora/include/functions.php on line 629
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You have 3 HQ Neil in that last list.
The Council is something James has been running for a while now; I think Chris got the idea from him. It works well, as most things can't touch the unit, and it takes an incredible amount of fire power to take the unit down.
You really always want at least 2 tervigons, and you want them to have both toxin sacs and adrenal glands for your gaunts, it makes your infantry so much more effective. An onslaught is a good idea as well, FNP is great, but you don’t need it all the time, but onslaught helps you get in range with Zoanthropes or hive guard more easily.
After that it is personal choice what else you include for the points you have left over. Stealers are a good option for board control, and are scoring so don’t have to do more than claim in certain missions.
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Yeah the only difference is in my list I had poisoned stealers and a second tervigon in place of the gargs. Yet to love the poisoned stealers though!
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Yeah I know was cutting and pasting too much....
8pts for a Gargoyle with the upgrades, 10pts for a Hormagunt with the same.
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Exodite wrote:You have 3 HQ Neil in that last list.
The Council is something James has been running for a while now; I think Chris got the idea from him. It works well, as most things can't touch the unit, and it takes an incredible amount of fire power to take the unit down.
Yeah I was using it when the codex came out but without attaching the warrior prime and taking regen, which I think makes it much better.
Good job I haven't submitted my botch list as I can have a load more gargs now, woo!
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The Fallen Angel wrote:Yeah the only difference is in my list I had poisoned stealers and a second tervigon in place of the gargs. Yet to love the poisoned stealers though!
I wouldn't bother with the large unit of poisoned stealers, as it is a very expensive unit.
I prefer stealers in a harrassing role, with the option to outflank/infiltrate making your opponent think about objective placement. I like 2 basic 7-8 man units more than one big poisoned unit.
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'Council' is mostly an anvil for rest of army to work around, since it can spread out you can force your opponent into all sorts of hard choices about what to do. Ideally armoured shell would be taken as well but I find that there aren't the points avaliable below 2k. It is easy to ignore and slow-but if its sitting infront of the tervigons you want to kill or its on your objective in bore draw then its tough to deal with. It is also a solid syanpse bubble, and prefered enemy makes gaunts into terminator killers. That is probably the most important reason I'd take a tyrant over primes these days-it even makes hive guard not bad in combat.
I've found the two sets of twin linked devourers essential to how I use the unit, since Nids really don't have many shooting units these days.
Stealers aren't very good these days, I just like them to be annoying like Josh said. 7 for me is about the minimum, any less and they are too easy to ignore + kill.
I don't like the doom, 3 Hive guard for me are far superior (especially with my dice). I wouldn't even use zoans at 2k, tyrannofexes are way better but much too expensive at 1500-1750 region. Zoanthropes are really horrible statistically but if you don't have them in this list then you can't hurt LRs.
Biovores are brilliant if you have say 90 points left over then I'd always take a pair-they are almost certain to do some damage.
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JamesR wrote:Stealers aren't very good these days.....
What is this heresy? Not any good? they are amazing!
You just need to give them scything talons and poison. Trust me, whether its orks or terminators nobody likes having your "To Hit" (admittedly only 1s but usually you only need a 3+ to hit)AND "to wound" rolls re-rolled- especially when those rerolled wounds can come up rending!
True, you do need to find a list that gets the most out of them (i.e. lots of speedy assault), but when you do they can really do the business for you.
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Warning: date(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected the timezone 'UTC' for now, but please set date.timezone to select your timezone. in
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I agree with Josh here though Nick, those Stealers are costing 19pts a piece. That is a lot for a T4 5+ save model. I've never been a fan of stealers outside of a delivery system for the old Broodlord, and with his decreased stats I wouldn't bother.
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Yeah 19 points a pop, and all someone has to do is stand in cover and you cry  . Stealers are obviously good in combat, they rip trash infantry up, but with stupid rending wound allocation shenanigans and lack of grenades I prefer not to overinvest.
To be honest another role which they preform nicely for me is counter chargeing things locked up already, I quite like to keep them behind the rest of horde rather than infiltrating/outflanking if I know its pretty suicidal. With prefered enemy and going at I6 they tip a combat in my favour. I wouldn't not take stealers in my sort of list though, it is far too slow and you give your opponent too much control without. Forcing someone away from the sides for 2x98 points is golden.
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I agree on paper they're not as good, however the gargoyles are going to suffer at least one round of shooting, hwereas the gaunts won't, also the gargoyles only have an 18" charge whereas the gaunts have a potential 24" charge.. Not to mention being troops so if they do manage to outflank, say in bore draw, then they can take the objective that the unit they've just killed was standing on.
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Iron_Mantis wrote:also the gargoyles only have an 18" charge whereas the gaunts have a potential 24" charge.
hmm?
Hormagaunts are slower than gargoyles, Hormagaunts don't have a 12" assault anymore.
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How do the hormaguants have a potential 24" charge Gaz? Have you read the new Tyranid rules? They no-longer have a 12" charge. So Gargoyles are actually quicker.
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