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Using just a 200 point force, chosen using a special Force Organisation Chart, and using the scenario taken from the Battle Missions book, Kill Team lets you personalise your force, naming every warrior, converting specialists and watching the progress of your leader as he gains experience.

So some of us are going to give this a try. It looks like a fun almost-Mordheim way of playing some quick small games of 40k6. I've already had so many ideas for themed Kill Teams that I am having a difficult time choosing which one to do first!

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Thoughts?

Godfather Viktor

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I think

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will be perfect for this!

I only need to build large bases for the Heavy Weapon Teams, check out how much some Veterans or an Infantry Platoon are worth and eventualy add a couple of models more. Probably some bulldozer/fork lifter to count as a Sentinel, just to keep on with the idea of a bunch of Hivers who got themselves armed.

zelophahad

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It's really grabbed my imagination too! I've had a few IG army ideas floating around in my head for a while but they've been way too expensive to build to a full 40K army (and I know I'd probably get distracted before I completed them). So this is perfect! I just need to

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I need, and make time to play!

In the meantime, I won't have any trouble building kill teams from existing model collections.

Dazza

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It's perfect for the numerous but small 40k armies I have. (Deamons, CSM, tau, templars and eldars) but I'm hankering to use a mech/inq force but wondering how to do it without a HQ choice...hmmm

Godfather Viktor

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Dazza wrote:
It's perfect for the numerous but small 40k armies I have. (Deamons, CSM, tau, templars and eldars) but I'm hankering to use a mech/inq force but wondering how to do it without a HQ choice...hmmm

A little idea for an Adptus Mechanicus force: in Codex Space Marine the Techmarine is an elite choice and a fully kitted one on foot comes at around 130 points. Spend the rest in Scouts or Tactical Marines and you're done.

Alternatively, just use the Techpriest/Inquisitor model to represent your leader, give him as much equipment as possible, and if you don't want to wait for experience advances also makes him one of your specialists.

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Last edited by Godfather Viktor (2013-01-11 18:46:46)

zelophahad

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I think an obvious tweak is to allow HQ choices but with some kind of severe limitation (e.g. they have to be less that 100pt or you can only take an HQ if you've already taken a troops/elites/fast attack choice).

But I think we should try a few games untweaked first...

WarbossKurgan

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I totally agree that we should start by trying the rules as-is. Later on we could try variations like adding an HQ or a Heavy Support choice or even removing Troops (!)
We could also expand the exerience system.

I think I've found my 40k mojo again!

Godfather Viktor

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Further tweaks that came to my mind: change deployment and primary objective to have attacker and defender missions like demolition, assasination, recognition, steal...

zelophahad

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Yes! Basically, once we've got the hang of the game mechanics, it should be easy to build on it - just like we did with Mordheim.

zelophahad

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What do you guys think of the 'Unit Upgrades and Special Rules' bit? Is it saying that if a character has a special rule which affects his unit (e.g. Sgt Harker's 'Catachan Devils' rule) that now only works for him? Seems a shame to me to loose that, it's characterful (and you do pay for it!).

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I'm not well-versed in any of those rules so I can't be sure what they would do. But I think we should try them out at some point.

zelophahad

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Well, as an IG example, you can take Harker as a 55pt upgrade for a veterans unit. His 'Catachan Devils' rule gives the whole unit move through cover and stealth. I like the way that the character of the leader is allowed to affect the character of the unit.

I'm guessing that the Kill Team rules pack has been designed to stop some particular beardy combo that the organisers spotted...

Stompzilla

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I really like the idea of a kill team style game and have, co-incidentally gotten back into Necromunda recently. My only worry about this is that it'll follow the 6th ed ruleset a bit too closely and not be very challenging. I love the 2nd ed way of forcing decisions on a player - do I run or risk a shot? Charging and declaring charges at the start of the turn and not getting to wait and see what effect your shooting has first. Either charge or shoot, not both, etc, etc.

I could have my arm twisted to give the kill team rules a go though (And dust off some 40K models).

Godfather Viktor

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@Phil: I agree with you, it's a shame, but it logically follows from the fact that every model is a unit on itself, thus the character can only pass the rule onto itself. And indeed it prevents beardy combos. The fact that both of us were musing over it should tell us something about the length of our facial hair

@Stompzilla: I understand your point, and as an Epic player loving realism and tactical challanges it was just expected of you. However, remember that the Kill Team rules are about converting cool-looking, fluffy models and having fun, narrative games where unrealistic, action movie-like things will happen

zelophahad

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Facial hair aside, the unit it still a unit, it's just that the models can operate more independently. I think this is merely a beard-trimming rule and personally, I prefer to just chat with the barber...?!

Godfather Viktor

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No Phil, the unit is no longer a unit:

Kill Team wrote:
Every Man for Himself: All models operate as individual units in
this mission, even if they were chosen as part of a squad or squadron.

But I'm sure the barber will be more than happy to later accept some suggestions on the level of trimming we want

zelophahad

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Yes, I know that's what the rules say, but I mean from a fluff perspective.

Dazza

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haha, you tell him Victor

blessed knight

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zelophahad wrote:
Yes, I know that's what the rules say, but I mean from a fluff perspective.

but those rules assume the unit is acting as a single unit all within 2" under his leadership to gain the skills.

maybe within 6" models get the unit bonus? bit like the BA apothecary/chalice zone.

zelophahad

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Just tried Kill Team with Saul. It was great fun. Feels exactly like a cross between Mordheim and 40K. Because it is!

Oh, and IG veterans with a chimera turned out to be a pretty effective against ork kommandos...

Can't wait to start building some purpose-built teams...

blessed knight

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did you play many games?

is 30 minutes enough?

zelophahad

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We played two. The second one only took 20 minutes, partly because Saul was on break tests from turn one! The first one took a lot longer because we hadn't seen each other for ages and don't know the rules very well!a

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I've narrowed down my army selection to dark eldar and nurgle marines until i get my proper team finished.

Grotsmeg

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Yes! Basically, once we've got the hang of the game mechanics, it should be easy to break it - just like we did with Mordheim.

Added 01.16.2013 08:28:12:
ok I wasn't in to this at first, but its growing on me! I have an amazing amount of bits and models not built.
I might have to take a look at a chaos kill team, just to keep the balance right.

Godfather Viktor

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I've just realized they removed the FAQ from the event page...
Most of the issues covered in the FAQ are however in the basic event pack already.
Those that are not, clearly relates to a previous version of the event pack, one that allowed for ALL special rules (and not just the ones listed) to be taken by specialists.
Should we disregard the FAQ and just use the basic event pack or not?

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