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Jeridian

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Had a quick go at a scenario, have a read and let me know what you think:

The Battle of Herghanaxe
THE ARMIES
Attackers- Marching through the night a large vanguard has advanced on the enemy garrison to launch a surprise assault at sunrise, the noisier cavalry and slower war engines will hopefully catch up to support the battle as it progresses.
• 3 Players- 2500pts Standard Army List each (Dwarfs, Chaos Dwarfs)
• Up to 1000pts of each army can be allocated to the Vanguard (deploys at the start of the game).
• The Vanguard can only include infantry, swarms and monstrous infantry.
• The rest of the army is held in reserve to arrive later in the game.

Defenders- Your garrisoned troops have been caught by surprise but are in well entrenched positions and messengers have been quickly sent to the army command to bring help.
• 3 Players- 2500pts Standard Army List each (Dark, High, Wood Elves)
• Up to 1000pts of each army can be allocated to the Garrison (deploys at the start of the game).
• The Garrison can only include infantry, swarms, monstrous infantry and war engines.
• The Garrison cannot include the army General or Battle Standard Bearer.
• The rest of the army is held in reserve to arrive later in the game.

THE BATTLEFIELD
8ft long, 4ft wide battlefield. Woods on attacker’s side. Hills, ruins on defender’s side.

DEPLOYMENT
• Each player on a side will deploy across a 2ft long section, one player in middle, one either side- this should leave 1ft on each short board edge not deployed in.
• The Defenders deploy their Garrison forces anywhere in their 2ft long section up to the board centre (2ft wide). Each player also receives up to 12” of barricades treated as Walls (see rulebook) that can be deployed anywhere in the same deployment area at the same time.
• The Attackers then deploy their Vanguard forces anywhere in their 2ft long section up to 1ft onto the board from their table edge.

FIRST TURN
• The Attackers have the first turn.

GAME LENGTH
• At the end of turn 7, roll a D6- on a 3+ there is a turn 8. The game ends at the end of turn 7 on a 2 or less, or at the end of turn 8.

VICTORY CONDITIONS
• Three objective markers are placed on the board, one 18” from the defenders long board edge at the centre of the board length (4ft), one 18” from defenders long board edge either side of this middle objective 2ft away from it. This should give each defending player an objective 18” from their long board edge and central to their 2ft deployment length.
• Each objective is worth 2 VP’s at the end of the game to the side with the nearest non-character model that is not fleeing.
• Each enemy General destroyed is worth 1 VP.
• The side with the most captured standards gains 1 VP.
• The side with the most VP’s at the end of the game wins, otherwise it is a draw.

SCENARIO SPECIAL RULES
Dawn Assault- On turn 1 (for both side’s turns) any shooting at targets more than 12” away treat the target as in Soft Cover, more than 24” away treat target as in Hard Cover, more than 36” away cannot be seen. Weapons that don’t require line of sight still cannot fire at targets more than 36” away.

Reserves- At the start of the Attackers 2nd turn they may move any of their reserve units onto the board from anywhere along their long table edge (i.e. not just their 2ft section). At the start of the Attackers 3rd turn they must move any remaining units onto the board.
At the start of the Defenders 3rd turn they may move any of their reserve units onto the board from anywhere along their long table edge (i.e. not just their 2ft section). At the start of the Defenders 4th turn they must move any remaining units onto the board.

A few player votes needed:

I've left the Deployment Special Rules in (Ambushers, Scout, Vanguard), I see 1 or 2 units with this not breaking the scenario though half an army Ambushing, etc could. What are your votes for keeping or banning these deployment rules?

I've made the Dwarfs the Attackers and the Elves the Defenders, this forces both armies out of character, and so hopefully produces interesting army lists, tactics and gameplay- the Dwarfs needing to design aggressive combat forces to take an objective whilst the Elves need either strong defense or a counter-attack force. What are your votes for the sides? As I suggest, or the more traditional Dwarfs holding the line against Elves swooping in?

I don't have much knowledge of individual Warhammer armies, especially Elves or Chaos Dwarfs- if I make both sides Trusted Allies just for a fair and simple game are there any ridiculous combo's that can ensure (e.g. Dark Elf character leading a Wood Elf unit with some unforeseen wargear/rule gimmick).

Grotsmeg

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Looks good, i would make the dawn assault max range 30" as i dont think the 36" will affect it quite as much.

Game on for me!

caledor

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Happy with this in principle, pointer for the wood elves maybe to include the option not to have the fast cavalry ambushing. Also the wood elves will make some changes to the number of woods on the table. As far as myself and high elves goes happy to defend and go along with Richards view.

Regards

Ferg

Jeridian

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Targets within 12" Soft Cover, targets over 12"-24" Hard Cover, targets over 24" cannot be shot?

Extra woods should be fine, I was just going for the idea of the attackers appearing out of the forests to attack garrisoned defence forces on hills and in ruins/settlements.

Ambush will depend on the scale I think- one or two units ambushing the attackers should be fine, armies have to prepare for this threat in normal games so should be able to in this mission.
Having their 1500pts reserve force ambush though, that's a little too powerful.

Opinions? Ban Ambush? Limit to X units per player ambushing? or X pts ambushing?

blessed knight

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Just double checking...is this for the first weekend in June?

Grotsmeg

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depends what you call the first weekend in June?
IIRC its for the 7th June, which has the 1st June is a split weekend, it both is and isnt the first weekend in June.

Jeridian

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Re-reading the Wood Elf comments- are they forced to Ambush with their Fast Cavalry? If so, yeah, I agree they should have the option to deploy (or move on from Reserve) normally.

jimmy

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Yeah, glade riders (core fast cav) must ambush, also got loads of scouting troops

Grotsmeg

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I dont know if its evil but just for fun im going for a carnival of beasts army.
thought I would let you all know in advance, of course with the wood elves and high elves that should also make the game more fun as they will\should have loads of troops as well.

caledor

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The high elves will be bringing the best ranks of the Asur, prepare to see the power of ward saves!! As for Adam and his wood elves, it will put dark elf and high elf shooting to shame.

Grotsmeg

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sounds like a nasty combination of elves then.
No holds barred for the opponents, full on pizza style all the way!

Jeridian

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Summarising mission changes.

Dawn Assault- Targets within 12" Soft Cover, targets over 12"-24" Hard Cover, targets over 24" cannot be shot.

Army List Restrictions- Each player's army can have up to 25% of it's points worth of units use the Scout/Vanguard/Ambush deployment rules. Allows some sneakiness, but not whole armies Ambushing, etc which would completely mess with the scenario. Good idea?

Can we confirm who the players are because I've lost track.

Specifically the Dwarf players, if you could PM me your e-mail addresses (I probably already have them but still) so I can set-up a little group e-mail to plot, scheme and plan the Elves demise.

Few more questions:

Deployment- do we want to randomize which section each player deploys in on the day? Or do we let the players decide between themselves before hand- which will allow a lot more planning and scheming!

Supreme Commander, don't forget to choose one!

caledor

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Pick the sections beforehand, better for planning etc. Hogan de Neil he adam we. All the rest dwarfs.

Grotsmeg

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yeah pre planning is good.

jimmy

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I'll be bringing chaos dwarves

Ironbark

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Hi guys, I need some clarification on how wood elves work with the scenario.

I assume that if I have scouts in my 1500pts section they enter on the back board edge and essentially lose any benefit from the rule?

If i have a glade lord or glade captain un my army he fires a single auto hit shot at the enemy general at the start of the game. Again, this model is likely to be in the 1500pts section, so I guess resolve the shot when he enters the battle?

Lastly, I will have glade guard with ignore shooting penalty arrows. Therefore the -ve to hit modifiers for the fog of war won't apply except for being unable to target models over 24"?

Cheers
adam

Jeridian

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1-Reserve Units don't benefit from deployment rules as they aren't deployed at the start of the game.
2-Not sure on this one, similar to Scout, if he isn't on the board at the start of the game he can't use start of the game abilities? Write your list to the scenario. I'm finding a lot of Dwarf no brainers like Organ Guns will be useless in this scenario attacking so I'm not taking them.
(*Alternatively, if your on the board have it shoot at the 'highest ranking' enemy character on the board at the start of the game- i.e. the character on the board with highest Ld).
There are some standard scenario's where units (including General) move on during the game (Meeting Engagement?)- how is this resolved if the General is off the board at the start of the game?
3-Yeah, the dawn assault rule simply applies Soft/Heavy Cover on units at distance, so if your pesky Elven eyes ignore this, they will ignore this rule too! So just the 24" limit.

Who was the other Dwarf player? Jimmy- what do Chaos Dwarfs excel at? Shooting, Magic, close combat? No plotting and scheming?

blessed knight

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I'm the Chaos player if that helps

jimmy

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yeah, I think we only have two dwarf players, and a chaos player

Chaos dwarves are good at shooting and magic although the K'daii destroyer is pretty good

Jeridian

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Ah okay. I tried to design the scenario to be non-army specific, i.e. can take any combination of armies, so we'll get to see different styles of attacker army.

I think I've settled on my list now, will be interesting being aggressive with Dwarfs.

Jeridian

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Just checking everyone still good to go- Saturday 7th June fast approaching.

Richard- Still happy to host. 10am start, 9:30am arrival?

Everyone got their army list in order, understand the army split (start on board / reserves) and the restrictions on what can be included in the 'start on board' section?

jimmy

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No idea but i'll knock something up soon

caledor

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Set for Saturday. 9.30 for 10 start.

Grotsmeg

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Absolutely guys all good and ready to go.
Its going to be very interesting...

blessed knight

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All ready for sat. My chaos force will be the diseased horde released from the slave pits of Zhar Nurgleth by the Chaos Dwarf masters.

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