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does anyone fancy giveing me an intro to mordheim over msn or something?

ive started makeing a skaven warband for something different to do and as a way to find out a bit more about WFB

i was wondering if anyone fancyes giving me some tips or taking me thrugh the basics wile i make up my roster sheet

anyway all help welcome if u fancy a chat let me know and al send u my msn adress thingy

Davespaceman

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am guesing its similer to necromunda and ive done 10-20 games of that but dident like it much cos i couldent get a closed campagne so i wouldent mind going into the shop campagne for something a littel different

and ive had an intro game or two for WFB

all i need realy is some one to bounce my ideas off in real time see if i am makeing any mistakes or anything

and yeh i knowits better to play and learn but i still wouldent mind some help writeing a warband up befor i went into play

also if anyone has a couple of random skaven models thay wana get rid of or even just bitz enough to make a skaven warband am more than hapy to trade up some mareine parts or extange some coinage

alltho i do have 4-5 guys already half made

anyway sorry to b a sponger for info guys but am just not very god at reading books and stuff as you can probelery tell from my diction and speling lol

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Last edited by spider_mat (2009-07-30 21:31:41)

Davespaceman

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I've got some spare skaven lying around all built but easily chopped up I'm going to make a skaven band myself oneday . The shop campaign hasn't really taken off I don't think, but the mill is a hive of mordheim action.

I don't have msn but write your ideas here and I'll help you with anything I can.
Fill up on heroes and then get lots of henchmen numbers is the skaven way.

spider_mat

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i got told by some one over tex that numbers and cheepness works well with skaven

i just wasent shure weather it was numbers as in hundereds of henchmen or loads of hros and loads of henchmen

also ive been told armor is worthless and

but to now ive got
60gc assassin adept (leader)
50gc weeping blades (+1A , instant wond on a 6 hit , parry)
10gc helmet
=120gc
i know hes expenciv but hes gonaa be doing most of the damage so i wana tool him up wile i can

ive gon for this set up on my leader cos i wouldent mind trying to get him the extra tail attack with a different effect wep like a bludgion for the stunn or a sword for extra armor pen
and the helmet cos i dont want him getting stunned

am not shure what elese i need to be honest

Davespaceman

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Get all your other heroes 2 black skaven 2 night runners and a sorcerer. Then loads of verminkin.
Arming your heroes is a matter of preference (fighting claws are good and look funky) but I'd give the verminkin 2 clubs and a sling each

spider_mat

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ok up to now ive got

60 assassin
50 weeping blade
10 helmet
2 sling
=122

40 black skaven
2 sling
15 flail
=57x2
=114

45 eshin sorcerer and i rolled *warp fire* but am happy to roll again
10 spear
=55

20 night runner
10 spear
2 sling
=52x2
=104

20 verkin kin
2 sling
=22x5
=110

495gc spent

my plan:

spearing heading the assault
assassin

closley supporting the assassin
1 runner+ 2 verminkin

flanking round for assault and privideing short range rapid fire
2 black

covering the blacks and the socerer
runner + 1 verminkin

slowley advanceing at range
1 sorcerer 1 verminkin
covered from combat by the remaining runner

i know it al seems a bit amiture but ive tryed to standardise and keep it simple apart from my boss

slings

i went for the mass slings cos ive lost faith in shooting of recent and ive done the maths and cos of thair price thay seem like loads of fun and quite a good bargin

i know its only strength 3 but ive scaned through and most things are toughness 3:
so thats ok 50% miss with bs 3
then 50% fail to wond witch am happy with
and doesent do anything to armor but still am expecting people wont have that much of an armor save anyway so cheep wonds seems the better option

flail

the extra 2 strength on my blacks seemed unmissable strength 6 is wonding allmost everything on 2's and if i come up against anything big i can use them to deal with it also am hopeing i can deal with most combats in one round with them keeping them grouped together so one recive a charge get his strength 6 hits out then if it carrys onto another round use his buddy to get another round of strength 6's in

spears

al try and use the runners to take the charges off the blacks so thay can get the first hits in combat then let te blacks charge next turn with thir strength 6

virminkin

just basic fire power and a couple of extra attacks here and thair if needed

anyway does this soundd any good ?

o and dave anything you can spair would be amazing mate do u need any mareine stuff?

zelophahad

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I can't helping thinking this is over-planning! Mordheim games are very rarely straight-up fights because of the scenario system, scenery etc., and 'army composition' is far less important than in other games. Also, Mordheim (and indeed its players) doesn't sit well with 'powergaming' so you'lll enjoy it a lot more if you worry less about tactics and just get on with having a go! Also, at least in our campaigns, winning and loosing is far less significant than you might expect.

Frog

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totem (joe) knows the skaven warband well, where is he when you need him! lol

Davespaceman

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How many ratties do you need?
And as "powergamer hobbit gunline" Phil says it's all about fun and having some one survive slippery jack and getting ahab complex.

zelophahad

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Davespaceman wrote:
"powergamer hobbit gunline"

Fear the halfling.

spider_mat

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wel am happy with the set up it seems prity skaven like
to have to work in groups and only hav the boss with a decent weapon
and the fluff behind them in mordheim makes them out to be ninja's hencee all he slings

and up to now ive got
5 models
one assasin half made out of an ork/oger armored spikey fist and some rat legs
2 blacks legs/body/left arm
2 runners legs/body/left arm

6 left arms
10+ heads very similer
1 tail
and a great fire ball i wana use for my sorcerer tehehehe

all the parts ive found are scavenged from the bitz box instore
the bodys are what look like clan rat bodys lightey armored but stil cool
and the heads seem to match the heads from the clan rat pics on the Gw sight

and i need
5 vermin kin
1 sorcerer

some right arms weps maby?

a rat in robes for the sorcerer

and anything punie and without armor for the verminkin

ive not got any weps yet but am gona go for a look next time i go into the shop

am gusing i can get away with saying a sling is in thair pockets

but the weeping blades , spears , and flails should be wysiwug

to be honest i carnt see it beeing that hard to make a couple of blades , a spear or two an some flails

how strict is wysiwug for mordheim?

Dasyatis

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spider_mat wrote:
how strict is wysiwug for mordheim?

Semi strict.

I`d personally say that all models should be armed with what they`re armed with. Ideally, if they`re armoured they should have a little bulk but thats not as big an issue.

spider_mat

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well al my heroes have got some indication or armor but ive not baught any yet so i and when thay do it wil be on thair

also thinking about giveing one or two of them backpacks to show thair carrying stuff

and as for the slings ive been toying with the idea of giveing them al a sash or blts as like a hidden sling insace that get captured

it kind of makes sence that a skaven ninja fighter would be sneeky and keep a hidden wepon even if its his sharpened claws or a belt he can use as a sling or even use the buckell to pick the prison lock maby?

Frog

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wouldn't worry about armour, no one uses it!

well except knights, but then you can only kill them on critical rolls (6 on D6) cos that ignores saves!

spider_mat

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am guesing as you advance later into a campagne armor bcomes a bit more important when u can get your saves up to 3+ befor modifiers

well i got board today so i made my self the weeping blades out of some mareine knives and a roll bag from scouts so it loks like thairs two skaven sized swords wraped up in cloth again gong with the ninja feal

ive also added a couple of pouches for two resions
to just add some detail to the models

and for WYSIWUG thats wair the slings and ammo are kept
and any other ites i pick up like potions or poision maby

ive also made a spear out of a mareine knife and some length of metal bar and some wire lol

zelophahad

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Let's see some photos!

spider_mat

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thair nothing on your modifications mate

but thair not bad al get some pics dow asap probelery in the next hour or two

Frog

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spider_mat wrote:
am guessing as you advance later into a campaign armour becomes a bit more important when u can get your saves up to 3+ before modifiers

I dont think i have ever used armour! weirdly armour gets worse later in the game, as ppl gain strength, each extra strength = -1 to your lovely save!!!!
mind you, armour against shooting is useful!

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Last edited by Frog (2009-07-31 15:46:06)

spider_mat

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ive kind of got an idea how armor works in WFB and m guesing that the armor in mordheim is the same ?
every strength over 3 is -1 to your save and then some wepions hav special armor percing qualities ?

anyway pics comeing soon am wworking on them now

zelophahad

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spider_mat wrote:
ive kind of got an idea how armor works in WFB and m guesing that the armor in mordheim is the same ?
every strength over 3 is -1 to your save and then some wepions hav special armor percing qualities ?

Yes, but there's also the critical hits rule which means that it's not unusual for armour to be negated completely!

spider_mat

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i had to replace thoes first pics thay were dire but ive had some help takeing th so heres the 2nd try

the verminator (assassin adept)

with his weeping blades (marine knife hilts) kept safe in thair cloth scabard (scout roll bag) witch i hope to sling over his sholder

also this is the body i made out of the oger/ork spiked fist thingy

one of the night runner twins

i dont have any spair parts for WFB so i had to make it my self

and his mohawk brother

witch matching familey hairloom armor lol
i still need to give this guy a spear but thats not a problem

my two black skaven (on the left)

i am going to model on some large flail type weps and maby some backpacks to bulk them out a bit
maby even add some paundrens and or something different

critical hits are like 40k rends right? 6 on the wond
but each type or wepion has diferend effects
swords cause more wonds and egnor armor
bludgions stunn and knock people down
stuff like that?

also poisions do thair effects on the to hit 6 right?

does anyone fancy spening a bit of time instore playing a couple of dummy games if i can proxi some stuff or borow soething maby?

zelophahad

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They're looking good!

We don't actually play the advanced critical hits rules for different weapons - there's enough to remember as it is!

I've never used poisons - have a look in the rules.

Forget dummy games, just get stuck in - it's really not hard to pick up (ask Beanbag and Dazza who were both initiated this week!).

spider_mat

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then wair and when do u want me ? and could i proxi for a couple of games until i get the rest of my war band sorted?
but as soon as i get the extra models it shouldent take me much more than a couple of days to get then table ready

ooo am al excited

do you guys run a closed campagne ?

zelophahad

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If you want in on our Vercuso campaign, you're very welcome Matt, but I'm afraid it's on hold for two weeks while I'm on holiday! We play at lunchtimes in an old Mill near the BBC building on Oxford Road.

However, I'm sure you'll be able to arrange some practice games on Thursday nights in store in the meantime...

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