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A continuing update of progress with the eldar. I've included a few pictures of the work done so far regarding painting (Being the only 1 so far who has made no effort at all and further shamed by Si's work on his nids i felt compelled to pull my finger out, lol). Following this week's frantic paint splashing there's just the war engines and 1 falcon troupe - which needed some repair work doing, left to do. I'm actually really enjoying painting this army. (Apologies for the quality of photography, i'm still trying to get the hang of taking model pics)

To date my favourite list has been:

Webway: Even if i don't use this to transport troops to the game it's effect on an opponent's set up and abjective placement is absolutely worth 50 pts.

Avatar - Free

Aspect warrior warhost: 2 x Scorpions, 4 x Dire avengers, 2 x Firedragons inc exarch and autarch + Wave serpents - 600. This fm is pure gold and has never once let me down. The addition of the scorpions was a wonderful idea. I do sometimes lose out on a few good FF attacks due to not being able to get the scorpions into BtB but the advantages definately outweigh this. Firstly i don't fear the countercharge move if i'm forced to engage in a difficult to position, clipping FF engagement. The CC attacks can sometimes be used to engineer assasinations, especially on those damned commisars if my opponent has been careless and their use as a human shield (With a superior armour save) and volounteers for first casualty removel are fantastic.

Guardian warhost, 3 x weapons teams, 3 x support platforms: 200: Truly excellent fm. Can be used both defensively and agressively (Although often passively). No matter on who/what you're playing they can get the job done. Playing spacemarines? Sit on the blitz, in cover and overwatch. Sit on an objective after coming through the webway gate and ensure it's secure, or maximise the mobile web portal and get into isolated fms, creating crossfires, stacking up blast markers and adding supporting fire, particulary for the avatar. Not to be forgotten the unit brings the ability to retain twice and in addition doesn't suffer a -1 for activation if retaining, making it an ideal part of any crushing blow.

Windrider host - 200: Very quick and quite survivable - which is quite a valuable commodity in an eldar list. A great unit for threatening objectives and CC specialists. Also fantastic at gutting small artillery batteries when used in combination with the storm serpent.

Falcon Troupe inc 2 firestorms - 250: I'm often asked why 2 firestorms? My personal bias is towards preventing the enemy getting easy hits and blast markers on my army. With it being rather fragile this is obviously not an ideal situation, lol. The firestorms are still quite capable at shooting and provide the unit and who-ever it's supporting with what is effective a death zone for flyers of nearly all races other than marines. You guys will probably remember the difficulty i had with getting these just right during the early games. I think i've just about got the hang of the falcons. They require a steady hand and you need to have a good idea of their limitations.

Falcon Troupe inc 2 firestorms - 250:

Storm serpent - 250: A useful but not essential part of the army. I have reduced the amount of things (And points spent) on units that enter play from the webway as the list has progressed. The storm serpent was a constant worry as both myself and all my opponents could identify it as a very obvious weak link in the army. Getting warp spiders into position was often precarious and took up too much effort for the pay off. The guardians and windriders are rarely an essential part of the battleplan and are both perfectly happy to enter play from the webway. So while the SS is still useful (Hence it's inclusion) and gives me options to be devious, i have effectively reduced it's status as "Weak link" by shying away from the "1 single killing blow" way of building eldar and concentrating on overall flexibility and speed.

Void spinner - 250: 120cm range?! Yes please! I'd have 2 if the storm serpent wasn't so damned useful.

It's also my firmly held view that these really are the only 2 eldar superheavies worth bothering about. Used as support rather than as part of a main assault, eldar superheavies are just too fragile to throw at the enemy.

Phantom, powerfist - 750: I've found this guy to be a beast! When i was using the revenants i found that, although their striking power was good, they lacked staying power and i often found myself wasting half their firepower by hiding when they were reduced down to 1 - as they are just too fragile and easy to break. The Phantom gives me a good solid BTS and has plenty of tricks up his sleeve. Switching to the powerfist was the best move i've made regarding this list to date. It forces me to get closer and put more thought into who and what the titan is going to engage. After a few initial problems getting the balance just right, i think i've finally got the hang of the Phantom and he's rapidly started stacking up some impressive kills.

Vampire - 200: For the afforementioned, free, easy hits on things the enemy doesn't want me to hit. Also a useful activation for forcing the enemy to progress with his plan, having little knowledge of what/ where i'm likely to strike (4 fms off the table and the rest with an average move of 30 cm (- 1st 2 activations can be artillery and the vampire, so 2 activations with still no indication of what the hell i'm up to.) Useful for adding blast markers and strafing broken fms, it's inclusion ensures an advantage to me unless the enemy has invested an amount of his points into AA (And hence not things that will kill the real threats in this list). Also comes in handy when you're being beaten by guard, to land on an objective and contest it turn 3. ;o)

3000 pts

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Last edited by Stompzilla (2009-02-05 13:30:01)

hello_dave

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Nice Eldar (or should that be pointy-eared ponces ?).

I'm up for a game this week (honest), and am tring to swing Friday off, if you're around, otherwise Thursday night is probably best....

Stompzilla

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Gah!

I'll be flying down to norwich on Thurs, so can only do Tues or Wed.

Any chance you could do one of those?

hello_dave

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I can do wednesday after work.

Would you perfer the playtest list or the offical one?

Stompzilla

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Whatever you prefer, i'm easy like sunday morning.

hello_dave

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sweet.

I'll be bringing the playtest list then, so that I can write it up to be utterly ignored on taccomms....

Stompzilla

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Lol, cool.

Might even manage to get a bit mpre painting done, so my army is half presentation worthy.

Mephiston

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hello_dave wrote:
sweet.

I'll be bringing the playtest list then, so that I can write it up to be utterly ignored on taccomms....

If at first you don't get noticed, post every day about the change you want. Normally works

hello_dave

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tbh I'll be happy if it's left as is with just the Decimators back in the main part of the list, and a resolution to the raging AA debate that doesn't include stalkers

wilsonian

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Shame about the focus as these are some nice models

Stompzilla

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Ninja edit

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Ah, a lot clearer, did you find the Macro function then,

I like the urban snow scheme- very Stalingrad.

I think you should base your Tanks, have them 'floating' 5mm of the base by use of a sturdy stick or lump out of sight underneath. After basing mine I think it connects them to the rest of the army more and (well in the case of ground tanks) allows weathering and dirt on the tracks.

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Progress grinds ever onwards:

Void spinner:

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Following on in the spirit of BIGGER GAMES FTW! I give you 4000 pts worth of Eldar, Stomp style:

Webway gate: 50

Avatar: Free

Aspect warrior warhost: 2 x Scorpions, 4 x Dire avengers, 2 x Firedragons inc exarch and autarch + Wave serpents - 600.

Aspect warrior warhost: 8 x Dark reapers inc 2 x Exarchs - 350 (Ride in Vampire)

Aspect warrior warhost: 8 x Warp spiders inc 2 x Exarchs - 350 (Webway)

Guardian warhost inc 3 heavy weapons + support weapons - 200 (Webway)

Windrider host: 6x Jetbikes - 200 (Webway)

Falcon troupe inc 2 x Firestorms - 250

Falcon troupe inc 2 x Firestorms - 250

Void Spinner - 250

Storm serpent - 250

Phantom Titan inc powerfist - 750

Vampire bomber - 200

Nightwings - 300

4000 on the nose

13 potential activations (Although likely to be only 10 - 11 at any one time)

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After much ponderance i think i'm going to replace the warp spiders with swooping hawks. Although i love warp spiders their inclusion puts further pressure on the webway and goes back to putting the storm serpent as an immediately identifiable weak link - which i've been trying to avoid.

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While I'm at it i may as well post the 6000 pt version (More for personal reference than anything else).

Webway gate: 50

Avatar: Free

Aspect warrior warhost: 2 x Scorpions, 4 x Dire avengers, 2 x Firedragons inc exarch and autarch + Wave serpents - 600.

Aspect warrior warhost: 8 x Dark reapers inc 2 x Exarchs - 350 (Ride in Vampire)

Aspect warrior warhost: 8 x Warp spiders inc 2 x Exarchs - 350 (Webway)

Aspect warrior warhost: 8 x Swooping hawks inc 2 Exarchs - 350 (Teleport)

Guardian warhost inc 3 heavy weapons + support weapons + Wraithguard + Wraithlords - 525 (Webway)

Night spinners - 175

Windrider host: 4 x Jetbikes + 2 Vyper - 200 (Webway)

Falcon troupe inc 2 x Firestorms - 250

Falcon troupe inc 2 x Firestorms - 250

Fire Prisms - 250

Void Spinner - 250

Storm serpent - 250

Storm serpent - 250

Phantom Titan inc powerfist - 750

Revenant titans - 650

Vampire bomber - 200

Nightwings - 300

6000 on the button

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Last edited by Stompzilla (2009-04-14 03:43:15)

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With everyone ramping up into tournament mode, (Or perhaps it's just that i'm paying more attention to the tournament threads over on Tac-coms, lol) i thought i'd have a play with my list and see what i could do to up the ante a little.

I've managed to come up with the following:

Wraithgate - 50

Avatar - 0

Aspect Warhost: 2 x Striking Scorpions, 4 x Dire Avengers, 2 x Firedragons inc 2 x Exarchs - 350 *

Aspect warhost: 8 x Swooping hawks inc Autarch + Exarch - 400

Guardian warhost inc 3 x heavy weapons platforms, 3 x Wraithguard, 3 x Wraithlords - 475 (BTS)

Windrider warhost, 4 x Jetbikes, 2 x Vypers - 200

Falcon troupe inc 2 x Firestorms - 250

Falcon troupe inc 2 x Firestorms - 250

Storm serpent - 250

Void Spinner - 250

Nightwings - 300

Vampire - 200

2975

* Still debating this one. Could possibly swap these out for either dark reapers or warp spiders. The initial fm has more attacks and 4 MW FFs but warp spiders have first strike, a better armour save and with infiltrate are more likely to be a nuisance in coming turns, as well as the potential for scout related naughtiness. Dark reapers have a longer reach with their 45 cm 2 x AP5+ firepower and 3+ FF but suffer, i feel, from their weaker armour. Why are there never enough points, lol.

Perry

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Stomp - I have an eldar phantom titan floating around my bitz box which is free to a good home if you want it? It has two of the 'lance' type weapon arms and one the chubby studded ones, its all in bit so I guess you could build it however.

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Last edited by Perry (2009-05-14 15:04:04)

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Fancy trying out something new next time i'm in (Bout 2 weeks):

Avatar

Webway gate - 50

Guardians + wave serpents - 350

Warp spiders + Exarch and Autarch - 400

4 x Scorpions + 4 x Dire Avengers inc 2 x Exarchs - 350

Falcons inc 2 x firestorms - 250

Falcons inc 2 x firestorms - 250

Storm Serpent - 250

2 x Void Spinners - 500

4 x Jetbikes + 2 x Vypers - 200

4 x Rangers - 100

4 x Rangers - 100

Vampire - 200

3000

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So finally made some painting progress.

Phantom's all but done (At least all the paint's on him). Apologies for the pics, the lighting's not very good and he's a bit shiny. I need to apply a matt varnish (Once i buy one, lol) and then some snow and maybe a few adornments to the base.

Making a start on the storm serpent next, so no doubt you'll be seeing that in various stages of painting over the next couple of months, lol. Have got the base coat done and think that's enough for one day.

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Having a play with some alternate list ideas to take account of some of the recent game experiences i've had recently and come up with the following:

Eldar 4000pts

Webway gate: 50

Avatar: Free

Aspect warrior warhost: 2 x Scorpions, 4 x Dire avengers, 2 x Firedragons inc exarch and autarch + Wave serpents - 600.

Aspect warrior warhost: 8 xWarp Spiders inc 2 x Exarchs - 350

Guardian warhost inc 3 heavy weapons + support weapons + Wraithguard - 350

Windrider host: 6x Jetbikes - 200

Windrider host: 6x Jetbikes - 200

Falcon troupe inc 2 x Firestorms - 250

Falcon troupe inc 2 x Firestorms - 250

Void Spinner - 250

Storm serpent - 250

Phantom Titan inc powerfist - 750

Vampire bomber - 200

Nightwings - 300

4000 on the nose

I am tempted to swap out the second jetbike fm for 2 lots of rangers to boost the activation count but they're so easily brushed aside, wheras the bikes have more lastability and can be used to fill holes in the plan and are just generally more flexible due to their increased speed - which is especially important with Eldar due to the hit and run rules. Jetbikes can be used several times a turn with their 35cm consolidate move wheras rangers are limited to 15 cm.

Opinions?

Jeridian

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U-turn on the Night Wings?
Because your AA wasn't ridiculous before,

Looking at that, I think I'll be falling back on the Turn 3 Planetfall if my Marines have to fly into it.

Stompzilla

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Kind of, aye.

I've been looking through a lot of tournament lists on epic UK and nearly all of the include 2-3 Thunderhawks and 2-3 warhounds. Same with guard (Replace Thunderhawk with thunderbolt). The lance ability of the nightwings would rinse through warhounds giving them only a 5+ save against 3x4+AT shots (With some luck a single pass could put one down), makes thunderhawks think twice and they make mincemeat out of thunderbolts, reducing Guard/marine's cheap and easy activations really quickly, limits their mobility and allows me to do that dance that i do so love. I also kind of like the idea of having 2 x jetbike fms.

If you were to do the turn 3 drop i'd have to find a nice spot of cover for the guardians and put them on blitz guarding duty with the Avatar waiting in the wings i think and launch the jetbikes from the webway to give them an outrageous striking distance. Turn 3 planetfall doesn't really scare me, as it's thunderhawks landing on objectives turn 3 that's frustrated my last few efforts at victory. (You only have yourself to blame, lol).

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I hadn't considered their effect on Warhounds, we rarely face/use them.

Yeah, the 'fuk Thunderhawks' Lance is the final nail in any Air Assault list against Eldar. Your AA even without the Nightwings is amongst the most powerful in the game.

I'm not saying Turn 3 Planetfall has a high chance of winning, I'm saying it's the only card I have left against Eldar with Marines- it's that or I bring a different army.

The other stuff I sort of agree with- the Jetbikes have a lot more flexibility, but the Rangers can sit on your Blitz and just make it a ballache to shift them- since Aircraft can't get through, and Artillery gets hit first by Void Spinners. It should free up your other stuff to move about.

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Aye, i can see how it would be a difficult proposition without calling on the imperial navy.

If you do bring your marines to play i've got another 4000 pt list that i enjoy using.

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