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I'll not go into more detail on what I think of the new transport rules, I think I've made my opinions pretty clear, lol.
In an effort to keep the amount of armouir high though, so that the few transports I do have actually live long enough to do their job and field something approaching the fast moving Eldar army I want to take, I've had a re-jig and come up with the following:
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Farseer - Runes of Warding, Fortune - 100
4 x Warlocks 2 x Singing Spears, 2 x Destructor, 1 x Embolden, 1 x Enhance – 146
Wave serpent -Spirit Stone, TL Shuriken Cannon + underslung SC - 120
Elites
8 x fire dragons inc Exarch, Dragon's Breath Flamer - 140
Wave serpent - Spirit Stone, EML - 130
Troops
3 x Guardian jetbikes inc Shuriken Cannon + Warlock, Singing spear + Destructor - 134
3 x Guardian jetbikes inc Shuriken Cannon + Warlock, Singing Spear + Destructor – 134
Fast Attack
8 x Warp Spiders inc Exarch, extra spinner - 193
Heavy Support
Fire Prism + Underslung Cannon + Spirit Stones - 135
Fire Prism + Underslung Cannon + Spirit Stones - 135
Wraithlord – Bright Lance - 130
1497 pts.
The Warlocks and Seer I reckon can survive for long enough outside of the transport to be able to make the most of a 30" flat out move and then a sloooooow deployment move, fortuning their own transport for a re-rollable jink save. The Firedragons I have my doubts about but will hopefully be able to hide while the rest of the armour takes the heat off them, long enough for them to be useful.
Dire Avengers I was previously running have given way to warp spiders, as their jump pack move is so much better than the transported abilities of the DAs and the WL was put in to maintain the high amount of armour, allowing some of the vehicles to survive long enough to do their jobs.
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Second hand models for sale. Eldar, Chaos, marines and some Tau bits.
Pm me with your needs and I'll see what I've got.
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pretty light on scoring units, but the hit n run aspect may work to your advantage. what about scouts/pathfinders? both have been given a boost in the new rules. they make a nice unit to sit on objectives.
turning hits into AP1 on 5+ is ace. 6+ and you can also nominate the model hit.
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Re: Trying to beat the poor transport rules, Eldar 1500pts
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Not very fast though. Zoom, zoom!
Hmmm, didn't realise that they'd continued the "Only troops can score" thing across from 5th. That sucks being an Eldar player, since our troops are pretty poor.
I may consider some Rangers/pathfinders, instead of the Wraithlord.
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Second hand models for sale. Eldar, Chaos, marines and some Tau bits.
Pm me with your needs and I'll see what I've got.
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Stompzilla wrote:Hmmm, didn't realise that they'd continued the "Only troops can score" thing across from 5th. That sucks being an Eldar player, since our troops are pretty poor.
And any interest I had in looking at 6th ed to play my Eldar again drops to zero. Terrible terrible mechanic.
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Re: Trying to beat the poor transport rules, Eldar 1500pts
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it's only troops that ALWAYS score...then missions make other options scoring.
eg: Big Guns never tire Makes all Heavy scoring
the list above is more, hold 1-2 objectives and use the rest of the army to deny the rest to the enemy.
holding objectives is just left to the grunts.
not that it matters much as a couple of games don't even require scoring units.
one thing you need to watch out for is making a unit too easy to kill - it just gives away the secondary mission VP too easily
BTW..the power spear that Avenger Exarchs can have has a nice extra rule now...+1 Str AP3 in 1st round of combat
(dropping to basic str AP4 afterwards.) bit of a boost assault wise. Possible large footslogger unit or falcon option?
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Re: Trying to beat the poor transport rules, Eldar 1500pts
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I was using Avengers in a waveserpent and actually had a pretty beefy troops section.
After trying out the new rules this week though, the new transport rules just kill it stone dead. Far too many disadvantages, outweighed by relatively poor advantages. Having a transport only able to move 6" if the occupants actually want to get out and do something is pretty terrible for a short ranged army that is supposed to rely on speed and misdirection and is not very resilient to incoming fire.
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Second hand models for sale. Eldar, Chaos, marines and some Tau bits.
Pm me with your needs and I'll see what I've got.
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