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This is the 2400 list I played with Phil:
Slaughter master L4 - Played out very well, with Crown of command (Stubborn) and Hellhart. Hellheart reduced Phils wizard to nothing! ;-)
Bruiser - BSB - i10 weapon, +1S big name and 6+ward.He was good, helpful, but not perfect. Died quick in a challenge.
Firebelly L2 - Dispel Scrol + bound spell fireball. Great weapon forgot you needed to use a dice for the bound spell, never used it!)In fact however he was really good, flame attack was ace.
17 Ogres Hord! -I did not give them +1 attack for 1pt! However still played out really well, Bruiser and Slaughter Master both in the unit with them. Making them an perfect killing machine.
6 Iron Guts - No were nearly as good as I remembered. I think hordes are the way forward for ogres.
2 units of 1 Sabretusk - Really good for getting in the way, taking out quigs or fanatics.
3 Maneaters, - brace of handguns. Sniper, Poison attacks. with firebelly. They were a good extra unit, however Im not sure how effect it was. Shot got one Wond on the wizzard.
3 Mournfang Cav - they are ok, I think I need 4 in a unit, and need hv armour which again I forgot!
StonrHorn, - nasty thing. very nasty. Worked well as a flanking unit.
IronBlaster - blah, not as good as I had hoped.
So thats my thinking, Here is my new list:
Slaughter-master - hellheart, Crown of command. L4 2nd Hand Weapon 372
Bruiser - BSB - Giant Braker +1S Gold Sigil Sword I10. Enchanted Shield Hv Armour, Iron curse Icon 184
Fire Belly Dispel Scroll, 2 Hand weapon L2 189
19 Ogres, 2 Hand Weapons, Standard, look out Gnoblar, 604
3 Maneaters brace of handguns (+1 attack & Shooting) Siper & Poisen 186
4 Mournfang Cav, Heavy armour, Dragonhid banner, brace of handguns 344
1 Sabretusk 21
1 Sabretusk 21
StoneHorn 250
StoneHorn 250
2414 (not sure how to cut 14 points yet!)
For 3000 I would add another Ogre Horde.
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So I'm actually playing another game this wed. ( wondering if I can organise a gave every wed night) against orks again!
Any thoughts guys? I need so experience!
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Ironfists on ogres are ace. use great weapons on your SM and firebelly instead of dual hand weapons the +2S is worth more than the +1 attack.
BSB needs a better ward save.
I found units of 6-8 optimum size, only use bigger units in really big games.
oh and leadbelchers are now amazing! much better than maneaters with brace of pistols.
any more hints and you might as well just use my lists...
btw what are you thinking of using in your 1500 OrkPhiltastic game?
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Grotsmeg wrote:btw what are you thinking of using in your 1500 OrkPhiltastic game?
I have no idea yet. I was thinking we would all coordinate our lists? Who else is on our team? Maybe we should put it all in PM's! - unless we can do a private forum thread?
Thanks for the advice Richard!
I used my horde against Phil and was amazing! How do you find 8 ogre units better?
Me and Joe are playing a 3000pts game.... Sadly I don't have all the models on my fav list, This is using all my models!
What makes Ironfists good? parry save? I found that great weapons on my SM and FBelly didn't come in useful.
Slaughter-master - hellheart, Crown of command. L4 2nd Hand Weapon 372
Bruiser - BSB - Giant Braker +1S Gold Sigil Sword I10. Enchanted Shield Hv Armour, Iron curse Icon 184
Fire Belly Dispel Scroll, 2 Hand weapon L2 189
I will play with items to see if I can get a better ward save for them
17 Ogres, 2 Hand Weapons, Standard, look out Gnoblar, 604
14 Iron Guts Standard 617
4 Leadbleachers, 172
3 Maneaters brace of handguns (+1 attack & Shooting) Siper & Poisen 186 Thinking of dropping them for something else like you said
3 Mournfang Cav, Heavy armour, Dragonhid banner, 273
1 Sabretusk 21
1 Sabretusk 21
StoneHorn 250
Iron Blaster 170
=2990pts
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I think the only issue with the ogre hoard is some spells like pit of shades etc taking you all off in one go :s
also getting it tied up with redirectors/chaff units 
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Its does depend what your playing against as well, if your playing against an army with loads of small units it can mean you have little chance of winning as the amount of units you can destroy is limited by units x turns. (overly simplified but you get the idea!)
Tie your main unit up with a cheap steadfast unit and you can kiss your game plan goodbye.
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Ironfists are count as sheilds so you get a hand weapon\sheild parry save (IIRC)
Great Weapons are good because most ogres strike almost last anyway being I2, (except via orcs of course)
So if your going last the +2S is a big hit, esp if your against heavy armoured T4 stuff like Mounted Orcs, etc.
Steam Tanks and big beasties dont like great weapons either.
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but ironfists on ogre bulls? 5+save +6 ward, or another attack for the front rank... its a tough one.
Rule Question: Lords/heros and psychology.....
My Slaughter master has the "crown of command".... Means he is stubborn. Does the unit get stubborn? otherwise its 35pts for nothing....
+ I was thinking about taking the "potion of fullhardiness" for 5pts, which gives you devastating charge and get you Immune to psychology. Does the Immune to psychology confer to the unit?
You see the rules seem to imply not. but that would make the crown of command well useless unless the model was on his own.
Added 05.15.2013 11:40:37:
O wait! Found the answer under stubborn rules. (page 76)
stubborn units are always stedfast, wheather or not they have more ranks thank their enemy. if ta character joins a stubbon unit, he gains the stubborn rule as long as he is park of that unit. IF a stubborn charcter joins a unit, that unit is stubborn whilst he remains amongst its ranks.
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