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So first up the Comp.

No special characters.
A maximum of 12 power or dispel dice used.
No magic item, spell or ability can directly prevent, bounce or otherwise affect a miscast.
No army may take any magic item, discipline, gift, lore attribute or ability, or use any spell, that adds power dice to the power pool, or additional power dice to a spell.
Characters eligible for ‘Look out, Sir!’, only suffer 1 wound from the following spells:
The Dreaded Thirteenth, The Dwellers Below, The Purple Sun of Xereus, Final Transmutation
Units affected by the spell The Infernal Gateway have the hits capped at Strength 10.
Units affected by the spell Okkams Mindrazor may not make supporting attacks.
All Battle Standard Bearers may take any mundane equipment and armour normally available to that hero slot.
The magic items Power Scroll, Folding Fortress and The Crown of Command are banned.
If the army general is in a unit equipped with the Standard of Discipline, the item has no effect until he leaves it. This will also apply if the general himself carries the Standard.
No army may take more than three units with the ‘Fly’ special rule.

Army Specific Composition
Beastmen
o Chaos Gifts do not take up part of the characters magic item allowance, up to a limit of 50 points for Lords and 25 points for Heroes. They may purchase gifts above this limit, paying the balance from their magic item allowance.
o The army may take the magic item ‘The Crown of Command’.
o Beastmen Generals in a unit with the magic item ‘Standard of Discipline’ will benefit from it.

2 lists are as follows. One Doombull list and One GBS list.

Doombull List

Doombull
Heavy Armour, Shield.
Gnarled Hide (5+ scaly skin),
Ramhorn Helm (6+ armour helm, for each armour save passed I get to make an extra attack)
Talisman of Pres (4+ ward)
Sword of Swift Slaying (ASF with my I5)
Other Tricksters Shard (modfels in Base contact must reroll successful ward saves)

Beastlord
Armour of Destiny (HA, 4+ ward)
Crown of Command (stubborn)

then I run out of lord allowance points - can't even give him a shield.

Wargor BSB
Beasts Banner (Unit gets +1S)
HA, Sh

Bray Shaman, Shadow, Lv 1, Scroll (Hiding at the back away from the stone of spite, miasma has 48" range)

Bray Shaman, Lv 2 Beasts, Power Scroll (+2 dice to cast spell, once only), Stone of Spite (bound 5, blows up all arcane items within 18", bearers take d6 S4), add h w.

Bray Shaman, Lv 2, Shadow, Chalice (one turn only, enemy at -1 to hit, things which dont use BS can only fire on a 4+), add h w.

Core:

37 Gor, add h w, FC (BSB, and 2 Lv 2's)
40 ungor, FC (Doombull starts here but solo charges majority of the time)
5 raiders (Scroll shaman hides with one of these somewhere)
5 raiders
5 raiders

Special
29 Bestigor, FC, Standard of Discipline (General goes here - will swap with a shaman in the Gor if necessary)
5 Harpies, Scout.
2 Razorgor.

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List 2

GBS, Lv 4 Shadow
Crown of Horns (stubborn - costs 75 points but 50 of them are from the extra allowance for gifts of the gods according to this tournament rules pack)
Talis of Pres 45
Iron curse icon
add h w

Beastlord
Armour of Destiny
Crown of Command
Shield

(I can drop the Lv 4 upgrade for a power stone for the GBS and a ramhorn helm for the Beastlord)

Wargor BSB, Beasts Banner, Gnarled Hide, HA, Sh

Bray Shaman, Lv 2 Beasts, Chalice, add h w.

Bray Shaman, Lv 2 Shadow/Death, Scroll, add h w.

Core
37 Gor, add h w, FC (GBS, BSB, Beasts shaman)
40 ungor, FC
5 raiders
5 raiders
5 raiders

Special
29 Bestigor, FC, Standard of Discipline (Beastlord + Shadow/Death shaman)
5 harpies, scout
2 razorgor
2 razorgor

So - what do we think?

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Last edited by Nethrag (2011-08-13 15:11:51)

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USER wrote:
The magic items Power Scroll, Folding Fortress and The Crown of Command are banned.
If the army general is in a unit equipped with the Standard of Discipline, the item has no effect until he leaves it. This will also apply if the general himself carries the Standard.

USER wrote:
o The army may take the magic item ‘The Crown of Command’.
o Beastmen Generals in a unit with the magic item ‘Standard of Discipline’ will benefit from it.

are things that dire for beast men they have to have specific counter comp rules like that? yikes

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In the first list i assume you meant power stone and not scroll? In either case your not allowed items that add dice to the pool or to the casting of a spell.1 Do you need three wizards?

Seems like a fairly standard list otherwise. With the second list, where would you put the other stubborn guy, the gor i suspect. Or maybe in the same unit as the bestigor incase one dies. You could always try a second unit of bestigor or something.

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Gary - yeah not great is it, but atleast its recognised. To be honest, beastmen are a better army than they used to be, but they're better in a much more ordinary way and are still worse than others. Previously you used to be even worse but atleast you could do unexpected things so the surprise factor helped out a lot in tournaments. Think we've lost that now. Primal fury is a pretty good army rule though - you just need to be stubborn to make the most of it.

Pete - Indeed I did - but yes your right I can't take it can I. Shame.
I don't "need" anything specifically, but 3 wizards gives me two attempts at getting miasma through and a wildform too.
Other option is to have a Lv 1 caddy and just max dice spirit leech every turn with a shaman sat in the generals unit.

The GBS goes in the Gor like I said yeah.

jimbo

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i like both the lists, if i had to chose one i would go with the doom bull list people really tend to have a problem dealing with him if they don't have cannons(i hate the guy always makes a mess), i only chose this list as the other list is very shard of the heard stone style list and not sure you can make use of all thoose wizards with out it, though 2 stubburn hordes is a pain

illusionarypresence

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Jimbo, you going warrington?

jimbo

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will be buying my ticket tomorrow (pay day yay!!!!!)

and yes i'm bringing daemons

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Nethrag

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Doombull then.

Next question. Do I go as I've kitted him or like most people seem to and drop the 4+ ward and go for the rerollable armour save (could get uncanny senses to get +1I with the points and give my BL a shield). I'm reluctant to do this as without a look out sir roll I think the ward is necessary, opinions?

Also - third option, which is a bit more unusual and is really only possible as I can get the two stubborn items in at this comp.

Beastlord, Crown of Command, Talis of Pres, Blackened Plate, Sh

Beastlord, Crown of Horns (Stubborn), Armour of Destiny, Sword of Might, Ironcurse Icon, Sh

Wargor, BSB, Beasts Banner, Gnarled Hide, HA, Sh

Bray Shaman, Death Lv 2, Scroll

39 Gor, adsd h w, FC

40 ungor, FC

5 raiders
5 raiders

29 Bestigor, FC, Eternal Flame (Blackened Plate BL here)

28 Bestigor, FC, St of Discipline (General SOM BL and Shaman here)

5 Harpies, Scout
5 Harpies.

Gives me 3 pretty hard hitting units, two of which are stubborn (starting positions would be gor in middle with stubborn bestigor unit on each side). Ungor for steadfast and raiders and harpies for warmachines/trying to get me into combat.
Major problem being I don't think I have that many bestigor.

vodrake

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I quite like that list, particularly becuase you can keep the ld10 and still have the flaming banner in there. It also means that people cant focus/ignore them nearly as easily. Could you fill the empty spots with unit fillers and gor?

Im proud of you Jimbo!! Playing with a real mans army now. Matt Ward for prime minister!!

Ironbark

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Johnny where can I pick up the full comp? - nvm found it.

Woodelves get the same treatment can use the crown of command.

Ian - the comp basically says fuck you and your Amy list. You power gaming bastard.

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Last edited by Ironbark (2011-08-14 12:59:57)

illusionarypresence

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Says he that took the power scroll seer/ abom/ cannon list.

Certainly gonna force a change from the usual cookie cutter vamp lists, although I wish they'd make their mind up re the WD vamp stuff...

Ironbark

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Changing my champs list to warlords Is simple. drop the slaves to 35. Drop a cannon rocket, condenser and ps . Addin a doom wheel and dispel scroll. Job done.

Nethrag

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Found out yesterday that my work trip to india has been put back 2 weeks.....to around the 15th. So I may not be getting to go to this after all

Nethrag

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Right it's official, work has screwed me and I now can't go to this - anyone want to buy a ticket? Jimbo - I assume you've already bought yours?

Pete? Adam? fancy it?

vodrake

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Strict Standards: Non-static method JFactory::getDBO() should not be called statically in /data04/aroberts/public_html/plugins/content/loadmodule.php on line 24

Strict Standards: Non-static method JString::strpos() should not be called statically in /data04/aroberts/public_html/plugins/content/loadmodule.php on line 26

Strict Standards: Non-static method JPluginHelper::getPlugin() should not be called statically in /data04/aroberts/public_html/plugins/content/pagebreak.php on line 39

Strict Standards: Non-static method JPluginHelper::_load() should not be called statically in /data04/aroberts/public_html/libraries/joomla/plugin/helper.php on line 41

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Strict Standards: Non-static method JFilterInput::clean() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /data04/aroberts/public_html/libraries/joomla/registry/format.php on line 45

Strict Standards: Non-static method JRequest::getBool() should not be called statically in /data04/aroberts/public_html/plugins/content/pagebreak.php on line 42

Strict Standards: Non-static method JRequest::getVar() should not be called statically in /data04/aroberts/public_html/libraries/joomla/environment/request.php on line 217

Strict Standards: Non-static method JRequest::_cleanVar() should not be called statically in /data04/aroberts/public_html/libraries/joomla/environment/request.php on line 151

Strict Standards: Non-static method JFilterInput::getInstance() should not be called statically in /data04/aroberts/public_html/libraries/joomla/environment/request.php on line 577

Strict Standards: Non-static method JRequest::getBool() should not be called statically in /data04/aroberts/public_html/plugins/content/pagebreak.php on line 43

Strict Standards: Non-static method JRequest::getVar() should not be called statically in /data04/aroberts/public_html/libraries/joomla/environment/request.php on line 217

Strict Standards: Non-static method JRequest::_cleanVar() should not be called statically in /data04/aroberts/public_html/libraries/joomla/environment/request.php on line 151

Strict Standards: Non-static method JFilterInput::getInstance() should not be called statically in /data04/aroberts/public_html/libraries/joomla/environment/request.php on line 577

Ive got mine allready, sorry.

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